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Post by kiwi*Misses Dia like the hell on Jan 22, 2008 8:39:00 GMT -5
You guys shouldn't be talking about something that you don't understand! Being and "outside" observer doesn't make you an expert. And trust me there is a reason why Saudi Arabia has the lowest crime/rape rate than any other country in the world. So this count as so SOMETHING and this proves thats they're doing something right. And again just point out a single i want only one country that has no flaws is their justice system FYI Saudi Arabia is the only country that has 100% Muslim population MEANING it's Islamic or whatever Islamic means. Nabs they rule by the Qura'an and Al Sunna that makes it Islamic with and Islamic system.
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Post by B on Jan 22, 2008 10:36:52 GMT -5
LOL Know what Ban..Recently I have had a 4 and a half hours fight with a friend for having said something like ''sometimes we need a dictator in some specific situations''...so *holds her gun* about the rest no comment (or might later) oh.. part of the same long story lol.. & I can guess what country ur friend was talking about let me just put it this way: between a utopia democracy & a utopia monarchy I prefer a monarchy. Just forget it it's a random personal opinion...
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Post by Jessica Rabbit on Jan 22, 2008 11:36:13 GMT -5
Poor couple. I can't say anything in regards to Islam, but there seems to be an abuse of the system in this case regardless of religion or form of government.
That being said, I smell a juicy Ramadan series in the making. Nada wainek ;D ?
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Post by guestou on Jan 22, 2008 11:39:56 GMT -5
shorter answer : saudia arabia is retarded NOT islamic!!
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Post by staracfannumberone on Jan 22, 2008 11:54:07 GMT -5
Nada's latest survey asked what was the last thing said by a member that made you say "WTH"? I think I found my answer i agree with u staracfan. WTH. yeah, I mean this is an opinion that is shaped to succcch a large degree by your background and experiences, I think. For me, I've seen countless journalists who spoke their mind and politicians who don't want top-down rule get blown up or shot to death...i'd like to think that all of that wasn't done in vain. Also, having lived in the US, where individual liberties are sooo touted (relatively speaking to most of the Arab world), I don't know if I can succeed in a country that tells me what to do, who to talk to, what to write, what to say, etc...
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Post by B on Jan 22, 2008 12:17:21 GMT -5
i agree with u staracfan. WTH. yeah, I mean this is an opinion that is shaped to succcch a large degree by your background and experiences, I think. For me, I've seen countless journalists who spoke their mind and politicians who don't want top-down rule get blown up or shot to death...i'd like to think that all of that wasn't done in vain. Also, having lived in the US, where individual liberties are sooo touted (relatively speaking to most of the Arab world), I don't know if I can succeed in a country that tells me what to do, who to talk to, what to write, what to say, etc... I didn't mean monarchy in that sense (it sounds more like dictatorship like this lol). Of course naturally our opinions are shaped based on our experiences and exposure (but my opinion was concluded after reading few books, I'm not usually a chauvinist or at least I try my best not to be one) but that's a whole other topic. I didn't think a random comment from me would steer us off the "delightful" topic of this thread. I guess I always fail to express myself well especially when I make short statements. Sorry if I offended anyone, but sometimes I just say what is on the top of my tongue fin.
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Post by ikhur on Jan 22, 2008 12:35:03 GMT -5
You guys shouldn't be talking about something that you don't understand! Being and "outside" observer doesn't make you an expert. And trust me there is a reason why Saudi Arabia has the lowest crime/rape rate than any other country in the world. So this count as so SOMETHING and this proves thats they're doing something right. And again just point out a single i want only one country that has no flaws is their justice system FYI Saudi Arabia is the only country that has 100% Muslim population MEANING it's Islamic or whatever Islamic means. Nabs they rule by the Qura'an and Al Sunna that makes it Islamic with and Islamic system. obviusly you know nothing get your facts straight coz SA does not have lowest crime rate than other country it is number 8 in top 10 ok just coz you are saudi not means you blindly defend it trying to make it seem so perfect mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-lowest-murder-rates.htmlan off topic i think i know who you really are why you are hiding behind this silly 'cupcake' identitiy coz you are a former member i'm sure of it coz you still talking exactly the same way as before
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Post by ikhur on Jan 22, 2008 12:52:22 GMT -5
i agree with u staracfan. WTH. yeah, I mean this is an opinion that is shaped to succcch a large degree by your background and experiences, I think. For me, I've seen countless journalists who spoke their mind and politicians who don't want top-down rule get blown up or shot to death...i'd like to think that all of that wasn't done in vain. Also, having lived in the US, where individual liberties are sooo touted (relatively speaking to most of the Arab world), I don't know if I can succeed in a country that tells me what to do, who to talk to, what to write, what to say, etc... you speak as my mind thinks this was intresting topic to see others opinns better than those nonsence star academy topics i be going now but i visit again to see more of these topic and cupscake keep in mind my name ill be back to reveal soon your identitiy
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Post by staracfannumberone on Jan 22, 2008 12:56:56 GMT -5
yeah, I mean this is an opinion that is shaped to succcch a large degree by your background and experiences, I think. For me, I've seen countless journalists who spoke their mind and politicians who don't want top-down rule get blown up or shot to death...i'd like to think that all of that wasn't done in vain. Also, having lived in the US, where individual liberties are sooo touted (relatively speaking to most of the Arab world), I don't know if I can succeed in a country that tells me what to do, who to talk to, what to write, what to say, etc... I didn't mean monarchy in that sense (it sounds more like dictatorship like this lol). Of course naturally our opinions are shaped based on our experiences and exposure (but my opinion was concluded after reading few books, I'm not usually a chauvinist or at least I try my best not to be one) but that's a whole other topic. I didn't think a random comment from me would steer us off the "delightful" topic of this thread. I guess I always fail to express myself well especially when I make short statements. Sorry if I offended anyone, but sometimes I just say what is on the top of my tongue fin. duuude, I'm like the last person to get offended by this kind of stuff...it's my hobby and my major after all! Plus, I think this conversation is a lot less accusatory than the original thread anyway, no offense taken, just a healthy chat! Something just bothers me about the thought of some family having control over the people of a state for centuries, while those citizens live their lives with the knowledge that they can never have a stake in their government. I just can't put that much responsibility in the hands of a monarch...
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Post by B on Jan 22, 2008 13:15:05 GMT -5
I didn't mean monarchy in that sense (it sounds more like dictatorship like this lol). Of course naturally our opinions are shaped based on our experiences and exposure (but my opinion was concluded after reading few books, I'm not usually a chauvinist or at least I try my best not to be one) but that's a whole other topic. I didn't think a random comment from me would steer us off the "delightful" topic of this thread. I guess I always fail to express myself well especially when I make short statements. Sorry if I offended anyone, but sometimes I just say what is on the top of my tongue fin. duuude, I'm like the last person to get offended by this kind of stuff...it's my hobby and my major after all! Plus, I think this conversation is a lot less accusatory than the original thread anyway, no offense taken, just a healthy chat! Something just bothers me about the thought of some family having control over the people of a state for centuries, while those citizens live their lives with the knowledge that they can never have a stake in their government. I just can't put that much responsibility in the hands of a monarch... yeah well.. lol I'm an eco fanatic, just love it... so on one hand if you apply one of its main principles "specialization= efficiency" i think that having a family dedicated toruling makes sense.. like how a dr. spends 6-10 years of their lives specializing to treat people, then how about a whole country! I was really immersed in the past weeks reading about persian monarchy and objective comparisons between now & then & the accomplishments etc.. so u can say the above opinion was being brewed lol but plz bear in mind am speaking in terms of absolutes, ya3ni something that will never happen (again comes the economics side with all the assumptions lol) because we don't live in a utopia.. heck even communism sounded like a lovely idea in a perfect world lol.. have u read animals farm? ;D
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Post by Nabeel on Jan 22, 2008 15:10:26 GMT -5
I didn't mean monarchy in that sense (it sounds more like dictatorship like this lol). Of course naturally our opinions are shaped based on our experiences and exposure (but my opinion was concluded after reading few books, I'm not usually a chauvinist or at least I try my best not to be one) but that's a whole other topic. I didn't think a random comment from me would steer us off the "delightful" topic of this thread. I guess I always fail to express myself well especially when I make short statements. Sorry if I offended anyone, but sometimes I just say what is on the top of my tongue fin. duuude, I'm like the last person to get offended by this kind of stuff...it's my hobby and my major after all! Plus, I think this conversation is a lot less accusatory than the original thread anyway, no offense taken, just a healthy chat! Something just bothers me about the thought of some family having control over the people of a state for centuries, while those citizens live their lives with the knowledge that they can never have a stake in their government. I just can't put that much responsibility in the hands of a monarch... :iagree:
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Post by flafel on Jan 22, 2008 17:11:49 GMT -5
You guys shouldn't be talking about something that you don't understand! Being and "outside" observer doesn't make you an expert. And trust me there is a reason why Saudi Arabia has the lowest crime/rape rate than any other country in the world. So this count as so SOMETHING and this proves thats they're doing something right. And again just point out a single i want only one country that has no flaws is their justice system FYI Saudi Arabia is the only country that has 100% Muslim population MEANING it's Islamic or whatever Islamic means. Nabs they rule by the Qura'an and Al Sunna that makes it Islamic with and Islamic system. obviusly you know nothing get your facts straight coz SA does not have lowest crime rate than other country it is number 8 in top 10 ok just coz you are saudi not means you blindly defend it trying to make it seem so perfect mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-lowest-murder-rates.htmlan off topic i think i know who you really are why you are hiding behind this silly 'cupcake' identitiy coz you are a former member i'm sure of it coz you still talking exactly the same way as before Guest you presented a table which supports what cupcake said/ these 10 countries have the lowest rate in murders not the highest. although the case of the thread has nothing to do with that. Back to the thread . about the family influence, the structure of golf societies is based on large known tribes since the early history of the Arab Peninsula / That is why the tribe has most power over social institutions/ The government is just individuals they are part of it, so they don't interfere when it comes to privacy. I am 100% sympathized with this family because they got approved at first to marry. According to my knowledge their divorce is illegal even if official because the man didn't intend to divorce. Marriage and divorce depends on approval & intention in Islam. aspects based on tribal structure wont be easly chnaged, either by intensive media pressures or local rebelling / This needs time through the younger generations, and f there is a well to change. People are very reluctant to social change by high speed or force.
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Post by ikhur on Jan 22, 2008 17:47:46 GMT -5
obviusly you know nothing get your facts straight coz SA does not have lowest crime rate than other country it is number 8 in top 10 ok just coz you are saudi not means you blindly defend it trying to make it seem so perfect mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-lowest-murder-rates.htmlan off topic i think i know who you really are why you are hiding behind this silly 'cupcake' identitiy coz you are a former member i'm sure of it coz you still talking exactly the same way as before Guest you presented a table which supports what cupcake said/ these 10 countries have the lowest rate in murders not the highest. although the case of the thread has nothing to do with that. Back to the thread . about the family influence, the structure of golf societies is based on large known tribes since the early history of the Arab Peninsula / That is why the tribe has most power over social institutions/ The government is just individuals they are part of it, so they don't interfere when it comes to privacy. I am 100% sympathized with this family because they got approved at first to marry. According to my knowledge their divorce is illegal even if official because the man didn't intend to divorce. Marriage and divorce depends on approval & intention in Islam. aspects based on tribal structure wont be easly chnaged, either by intensive media pressures or local rebelling / This needs time through the younger generations, and f there is a well to change. People are very reluctant to social change by high speed or force. do you think i am stupid or blind? like you? obviusly from the link i posted it written:countries with lowest murder rates so why i would think about it that its the highest? i said to cupscake that SA is number 8 in top 10 meaning top 10 lowest murder rate countries it is not number 1 as cupscake claim about SA being the country with lowest murder rate
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Post by fyi on Jan 22, 2008 17:50:48 GMT -5
low crime rate doesn't equal low social injustice which ksa if full of
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Post by iSamoora- Maghraby ❤ on Jan 22, 2008 17:55:55 GMT -5
Guest you presented a table which supports what cupcake said/ these 10 countries have the lowest rate in murders not the highest. although the case of the thread has nothing to do with that. Back to the thread . about the family influence, the structure of golf societies is based on large known tribes since the early history of the Arab Peninsula / That is why the tribe has most power over social institutions/ The government is just individuals they are part of it, so they don't interfere when it comes to privacy. I am 100% sympathized with this family because they got approved at first to marry. According to my knowledge their divorce is illegal even if official because the man didn't intend to divorce. Marriage and divorce depends on approval & intention in Islam. aspects based on tribal structure wont be easly chnaged, either by intensive media pressures or local rebelling / This needs time through the younger generations, and f there is a well to change. People are very reluctant to social change by high speed or force. do you think i am stupid or blind? like you? obviusly from the link i posted it written:countries with lowest murder rates so why i would think about it that its the highest? i said to cupscake that SA is number 8 in top 10 meaning top 10 lowest murder rate countries it is not number 1 as cupscake claim about SA being the country with lowest murder rate omgosh you are so funny! SHE DIDN'T MEAN IT LITERALLY!! She just meant eno its considered one of the countries with the lowest crime/rape rate.. wi aslan the list that you have is MURDER which is totally different!! and do u see the other countries on the list?? saudia has the highest population outta all those countries.. wow and your calling falfoola blind?? aslan from ur first sentence (do you think i am stupid or blind? like you? obviusly from the link i posted it written:countries with lowest murder rates so why i would think about it that its the highest?) clearly shows that you thought it was the highest.. cuz nobody just starts calling people blind outta nowhere unless they feel like that person made them feel dumb..
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